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Re: [CAcert-Policy] cacert-p] how the military does safety


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  • From: Jac Kersing <j.kersing AT the-box.com>
  • To: Policy-Discussion <cacert-policy AT lists.cacert.org>
  • Subject: Re: [CAcert-Policy] cacert-p] how the military does safety
  • Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 00:32:16 +0100 (CET)
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  • List-id: Policy-Discussion <cacert-policy.lists.cacert.org>

Hi Jens,

On Tue, 20 Feb 2007, Jens Paul wrote:

I think such decission made by an event organisator / officer / senior assurer should always be based on a policy. And if we allow such a person to be an event organisator / officer / senior assurer (we have to define first!), we should be able to trust him that he acts only according to the policy. If not, he won't keep his "job" very long, right?

Ok, assume next Cebit a senior assurer is present. One of the assurers decides to ignore policies. Now the senior assurer asks him/her to mend his/her ways. Do you think anyone ignoring the policies will change into a model citizen from that moment on? If someone does not want to work within the rules no senior assurer will be able to change that. In the situation you described earlier the wayward assurer would ignore the senior assurer just like the event organiser.
If the 'wayward' assurer is not violating any policies a senior assurer has no case at all (as every decission should be policy based.)
Should an assurer be drunk, abusive or otherwise disruptive at any event, the organiser (or the other assurers) has every right to ask him to leave. There is no need to grant anyone additional privileges for this imho.

Having a senior assurer on-site for advice when questions arise that are not (yet) addressed by the policy would make sense to me. But for advice only as the person assuring is the person accountable for the assurance.

Well, if someone does it all in private people will see him "as a person" and not "as CAcert". If it is at an offical booth, thinks are seen diffrent I guess.

In my experience whenever I'm assuring for CAcerts (or Thawtes) Web of Trust the person being assured assumes I'm acting as an agent for CAcert (or Thawte), not as a private person, at least that goes for the fast majority of them.

Best regards,

Jac

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