Subject: Policy-Discussion
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- From: mfolimun AT elitemail.org
- To: "Policy-Discussion" <cacert-policy AT lists.cacert.org>
- Subject: Re: [CAcert-Policy] Why is identity needed to authenticate domains?
- Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 22:18:52 +0400
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On Thu, 10 May 2007 08:25:35 -0700, "Peter Williams"
<home_pw AT msn.com>
said:
> An auditor would normally accept two risk-based rationales, supporting
> the policy of CA management concerning periods.
>
> 1. lack of cryptographic strength is mitigated by limiting the exposure
> of the key, by limiting the period during which it can be used
>
> 2. naturally diminishing strength of the binding of a confirmed name to
> the public key over time is mitigated by setting a threshold date after
> which the strength must be re-established in order to convey the
> appropriate amount of identity assurance. Obviously, either further
> professionalize or simplify the language, to suit the audience.
Well 1 doesn't apply (since I intend on requesting at least a 2048bit
key), so I will address 2. Ultimately, a signed TLS cert is a
certification of a domain name, not an individual person. For my
domain, no individual is listed on the whois information, so there is
no identity to assure.
However, I can conclusively demonstrate, via a number of different
technical mechanisms, that the request for the certificate is
actually coming from the entity that owns the domain. Therefore, I
don't understand why I am to be given such an low threshhold of trust.
A reasonable level, in my opinion, would be the lesser of 1 year
and domain expiration date. 6 months is too rapid to be practical.
The ability to create subdomains, answer postmaster's mail, and post
requested web content demonstrates 3 independent mechanisms for
verifying domain ownership. Reverse DNS represents yet a fourth.
Since seeing an ID in my case adds no additional assurance of
domain ownership (it could be anyone's ID: whois displays no one),
I really don't see any reason why a full length cert shouldn't be
granted using these mechanisms.
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- [CAcert-Policy] Why is identity needed to authenticate domains?, mfolimun, 05/09/2007
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] Why is identity needed to authenticate domains?, Ian G, 05/10/2007
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] Why is identity needed to authenticate domains?, Peter Williams, 05/10/2007
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] Why is identity needed to authenticate domains?, mfolimun, 05/10/2007
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] Why is identity needed to authenticate domains?, Greg Stark, 05/10/2007
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] Why is identity needed to authenticate domains?, Bernhard Froehlich, 05/10/2007
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] Why is identity needed to authenticate domains?, mfolimun, 05/11/2007
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] Why is identity needed to authenticate domains?, Ian G, 05/11/2007
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] Why is identity needed to authenticate domains?, mfolimun, 05/11/2007
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] Why is identity needed to authenticate domains?, Philipp Gühring, 05/13/2007
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] Why is identity needed to authenticate domains?, mfolimun, 05/13/2007
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] Why is identity needed to authenticate domains?, Philipp Gühring, 05/13/2007
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] Why is identity needed to authenticate domains?, mfolimun, 05/11/2007
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] Why is identity needed to authenticate domains?, Ian G, 05/13/2007
- [CAcert-Policy] No Identity info in SSL server cert?, Ian G, 05/13/2007
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] Why is identity needed to authenticate domains?, Ian G, 05/11/2007
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] Why is identity needed to authenticate domains?, Greg Stark, 05/10/2007
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] Why is identity needed to authenticate domains?, mfolimun, 05/10/2007
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