Subject: Policy-Discussion
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- From: Ian G <iang AT systemics.com>
- To: Policy-Discussion <cacert-policy AT lists.cacert.org>
- Subject: [CAcert-Policy] No Identity info in SSL server cert?
- Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 13:05:50 +0200
- List-archive: <http://lists.cacert.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/cacert-policy>
- List-id: Policy-Discussion <cacert-policy.lists.cacert.org>
Ian G wrote:
mfolimun AT elitemail.org
wrote:
On Fri, 11 May 2007 14:00:04 +0200, "Ian G"
<iang AT systemics.com>
said:
http://wiki.cacert.org/wiki/SubmitCsr -But this is NOT what you do! This is what the GPG web of trust does! What YOU do is certify that content that claims to be from domain X *really is* from domain X. Particular individuals have nothing to do with the content you certify.Sorry, where did you read that? The CPS doesn't say that, did this come from anywhere in particular?
"Basically unless you assure your company nothing else except for commonNames and subjectAltNames will appear on your certificate, the other fields are removed"
It would seem you do not provide any form of individual
identity on your certs, just commonName/domain.
Oh, I see what you are saying! That might be a bug, then, in either the certificates or the CPS. Let's check it out then. Thanks!
OK, so as promised, let's check this bug out.
I checked my certificate for SSL use and it has no identifying info in (for example) the OU field. (Whereas my individual email certs do have my name in them.) This matches the above claim made on the wiki as found by mfolimun.
I checked one other CA's cert for some website, and the owner was identified in the OU field.
Why does CAcert's CA strip any identifying info from the other fields? Is there a reason why this is so?
(I can imagine many myself ... but I want to hear the CA's reasons.)
Then, in the CPS, it states that:
Relying Party Statement
A relying party may rely on the User named in a certificate having been assured to at least 50 points.
Now, we could argue that both ways, in comparison to the above. But for integrity of claim, we should be clear what we are intending to do here; and rewrite that relying party statement ... or the certs policy ... to match.
Comments?
iang
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] Why is identity needed to authenticate domains?, (continued)
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] Why is identity needed to authenticate domains?, mfolimun, 05/10/2007
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] Why is identity needed to authenticate domains?, Greg Stark, 05/10/2007
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] Why is identity needed to authenticate domains?, Bernhard Froehlich, 05/10/2007
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] Why is identity needed to authenticate domains?, mfolimun, 05/11/2007
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] Why is identity needed to authenticate domains?, Ian G, 05/11/2007
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] Why is identity needed to authenticate domains?, mfolimun, 05/11/2007
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] Why is identity needed to authenticate domains?, Philipp Gühring, 05/13/2007
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] Why is identity needed to authenticate domains?, mfolimun, 05/13/2007
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] Why is identity needed to authenticate domains?, Philipp Gühring, 05/13/2007
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] Why is identity needed to authenticate domains?, mfolimun, 05/11/2007
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] Why is identity needed to authenticate domains?, Ian G, 05/13/2007
- [CAcert-Policy] No Identity info in SSL server cert?, Ian G, 05/13/2007
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] No Identity info in SSL server cert?, Philipp Gühring, 05/13/2007
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] No Identity info in SSL server cert?, Ian G, 05/14/2007
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] No Identity info in SSL server cert?, Philipp Gühring, 05/14/2007
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] No Identity info in SSL server cert?, Jac Kersing, 05/14/2007
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] No Identity info in SSL server cert?, Guillaume ROMAGNY, 05/14/2007
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] No Identity info in SSL server cert?, Philipp Gühring, 05/14/2007
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] No Identity info in SSL server cert?, Guillaume ROMAGNY, 05/14/2007
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] Why is identity needed to authenticate domains?, Ian G, 05/11/2007
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] Why is identity needed to authenticate domains?, Greg Stark, 05/10/2007
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] Why is identity needed to authenticate domains?, mfolimun, 05/10/2007
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