Subject: Policy-Discussion
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- From: Iang <iang AT iang.org>
- To: Policy-Discussion <cacert-policy AT lists.cacert.org>
- Subject: Re: [CAcert-Policy] Brainstorming Session on Names
- Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 15:10:09 +0200
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FTR, I copy below an extract from the recent meeting as minuted at http://wiki.cacert.org/wiki/TopMinutes-20070917 .
This was a dispute filed under the new Dispute Resolution Policy, and was heard at the 'top' with some cautionary remarks.
Name it as more food for storming brains.
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Our first dispute!.
We took time out of the agenda to talk about the first dispute lodged under the Dispute Resolution Policy. Since the details of the dispute resolution should be private, and anyway it had not yet been assigned appropriately, we discussed a "straw man" case similar to the one in question.
Before: Arbitrator Greg Rose (A). Respondent: Teus Hagen (R) Claimant: Evaldo Gardenali (C) Case: a20070921.1
1. A: The case will be heard hypothetically only.
2. A: Are the parties happy to have hearings in front of group? Yes.
3. A: Claimant claims that Respondent was assured even though he didn't have documents on him that proved he was indeed the person on the website.
4. A: Claimant, did you ever certify Teus?
* C: No. I had the documents and it did not match.
5. C: Claimant challenges Respondent to produce official dox that match the name. 6. A: A reasonable person should know that first names may differ according to conventions. There is little or no difference between Greg and Gregory.
7. A: Uphold the right of the claimant to refuse the assurance.
8. R: You might choose not to set a rule that applies to any other case. We cannot go back and change the cases where this occurs. Every policy and change can cause severe systems changes. There are costs in just fixing. If there is a rule, did it happen after the first assurance of Respondent has happened? Be careful.
9. A: I undertook a reasonable man's search for the rule, and couldn't find it.
10. A: I direct CAcert (the board) to clarify the rule. I do not make an order on this issue.
11. A: If the Claimant had acted badly, we might have to revoke all certificates. There seems to be no intent to act badly in this case.
12. A: If the Assurances were to be revoked it would cause a ripple effect. Therefore no such order is made.
13. A: I Dismiss the action.
Arbitrator closes the case.
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- [CAcert-Policy] Brainstorming Session on Names, Evaldo Gardenali, 09/25/2007
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] Brainstorming Session on Names, Iang, 09/25/2007
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] Brainstorming Session on Names, Alejandro Mery Pellegrini (CAcert), 09/25/2007
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] Brainstorming Session on Names, Iang, 09/26/2007
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] Brainstorming Session on Names, Alejandro Mery Pellegrini (CAcert), 09/26/2007
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] Brainstorming Session on Names, Evaldo Gardenali, 09/27/2007
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] Brainstorming Session on Names, Iang, 09/28/2007
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] Brainstorming Session on Names, Evaldo Gardenali, 09/27/2007
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] Brainstorming Session on Names, Alejandro Mery Pellegrini (CAcert), 09/26/2007
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] Brainstorming Session on Names, Iang, 09/26/2007
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] Brainstorming Session on Names, Alejandro Mery Pellegrini (CAcert), 09/25/2007
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] Brainstorming Session on Names, Bernhard Froehlich, 09/25/2007
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] Brainstorming Session on Names, Sebastian Kueppers, 09/25/2007
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] Brainstorming Session on Names, Philipp Gühring, 09/25/2007
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] Brainstorming Session on Names, Iang, 09/26/2007
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] Brainstorming Session on Names, Philipp Gühring, 09/26/2007
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] Brainstorming Session on Names, Sebastian Kueppers, 09/26/2007
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] Brainstorming Session on Names, Iang, 09/26/2007
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] Brainstorming Session on Names, Sebastian Kueppers, 09/25/2007
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] Brainstorming Session on Names, cacert AT gmx.net, 09/26/2007
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] Brainstorming Session on Names, Teus Hagen, 09/26/2007
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] Brainstorming Session on Names, Guillaume ROMAGNY, 09/26/2007
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] Brainstorming Session on Names, Teus Hagen, 09/26/2007
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] Brainstorming Session on Names, Iang, 09/25/2007
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