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Re: [CAcert-Policy] CPS bugs. Vote please. Colosing date of votes21 October 12pm UTC
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- From: Philipp Dunkel <p.dunkel AT cacert.org>
- To: Policy-Discussion <cacert-policy AT lists.cacert.org>
- Subject: Re: [CAcert-Policy] CPS bugs. Vote please. Colosing date of votes21 October 12pm UTC
- Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 18:10:59 +0200
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Hi there,
I think at this point it's just linguistics. The fundamentals seem agreed.
Regards, Philipp
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On Oct 16, 2008, at 17:25, Teus Hagen
<teus AT theunis.org>
wrote:
Some notes, not part of the decision:
* the term "*verified*" is what is used in the wider industry; e.g., the browser will presents the term as: "Verified by: CAcert.org". So the overall term should be "verified".
* With /evaluation/ (2), there is some discussion as to what the precise name for that thing should be, but nobody is disagreeing about the meaning.
That is fine, let us agree to use the term "Evaluation" for now and if we can find a better term later on, we can slot it in.
* the "*who*" of doing the verification is left out, and can be assumed to be the obvious: issuer, CAcert, etc. This is clear to all.
* Subroots are off the agenda for now I think. It is CAcert and its people who are doing the verification, however it is done. It is noted that Sam opposes this. If there is a decision in a future life to approve a subroots policy, it is easy to incorporate a change in the wording then.
Noting that one objection, are we ready to declare "/rough consensus/" and turn this into a policy decision for the wiki page that records it?
teus
I see still some feedback streaming in. These emails seems to be a continuation of what was said or try to improve the semantics of expressions used. I also see a try to redefine the semantics of some English words. Well I am not a UK or US English native English speaker so I cannot react on that. I may have misunderstood at some times what one was trying to express. If so and it is important for the decisions please say so.
On 16/10/08 17:05, Teus Hagen wrote:
There seems to be a strong consensus on the following narrow question:_______________________________________________
*All information in the certificate is verified*.
This above decision crafts a strong principle which leaves the implementation (operational part) open. Deliberately, the details are left to later steps, so we can separate out the principle from the details.
There is *one* detailed statement on which we seem to have good consensus:
Verification means one of the following:
1. Assurance, as per Assurance Programme (e.g. Name).
2. "Evaluation" as per Certificate Policy Statement (e.g. domains,
email address).
3. Control, as per Certificate Policy Statement (e.g. serial numbers,
etc.).
If we are all happy with that I propose to record the above as the accepted decision in the minutes.
Then, the debate can continue on the other issues.
teus
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- Re: [CAcert-Policy] CPS bugs. Vote please. Colosing date of votes21 October 12pm UTC, (continued)
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] CPS bugs. Vote please. Colosing date of votes21 October 12pm UTC, Bernhard Froehlich, 10/16/2008
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] CPS bugs. Vote please. Colosing date of votes21 October 12pm UTC, Philipp Dunkel, 10/16/2008
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] CPS bugs. Vote please. Colosing date of votes21 October 12pm UTC, samj, 10/16/2008
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] CPS bugs. Vote please. Colosing date of votes21 October 12pm UTC, Philipp Dunkel, 10/16/2008
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] CPS bugs. Vote please. Colosing date of votes21 October 12pm UTC, maurice Kellenaers, 10/16/2008
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] CPS bugs. Vote please. Colosing date of votes21 October 12pm UTC, Philipp Dunkel, 10/16/2008
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] CPS bugs. Vote please. Colosing date of votes21 October 12pm UTC, Teus Hagen, 10/16/2008
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] CPS bugs. Vote please. Colosing date of votes21 October 12pm UTC, Teus Hagen, 10/16/2008
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] CPS bugs. Vote please. Colosing date of votes21 October 12pm UTC, maurice Kellenaers, 10/16/2008
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] CPS bugs. Vote please. Colosing date of votes21 October 12pm UTC, Teus Hagen, 10/16/2008
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] CPS bugs. Vote please. Colosing date of votes21 October 12pm UTC, Philipp Dunkel, 10/16/2008
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] CPS bugs. Vote please. Colosing date of votes21 October 12pm UTC, Philipp Dunkel, 10/16/2008
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] CPS bugs. Vote please. Colosing date of votes21 October 12pm UTC, Peter Williams, 10/16/2008
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] CPS bugs. Vote please. Colosing date of votes21 October 12pm UTC, IanG, 10/16/2008
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] CPS bugs. Vote please. Colosing date of votes21 October 12pm UTC, Sam Johnston, 10/20/2008
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] CPS bugs. Vote please. Colosing date of votes21 October 12pm UTC, Peter Williams, 10/21/2008
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] CPS bugs. Vote please. Colosing date of votes21 October 12pm UTC, Philipp Dunkel, 10/16/2008
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] CPS bugs. Vote please. Colosing date of votes21 October 12pm UTC, Tomáš Trnka, 10/17/2008
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] CPS bugs. Vote please. Colosing date of votes21 October 12pm UTC, Sam Johnston, 10/18/2008
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] CPS bugs. Vote please. Colosing date of votes21 October 12pm UTC, Philipp Dunkel, 10/18/2008
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] CPS bugs. Vote please. Colosing date of votes21 October 12pm UTC, Peter Williams, 10/18/2008
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