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Re: [CAcert-Policy] CPS bugs. Vote please. Colosing date of votes21 October 12pm UTC
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- From: "Peter Williams" <home_pw AT msn.com>
- To: "'Policy-Discussion'" <cacert-policy AT lists.cacert.org>
- Subject: Re: [CAcert-Policy] CPS bugs. Vote please. Colosing date of votes21 October 12pm UTC
- Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 20:19:54 -0700
- List-archive: <https://lists.cacert.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/cacert-policy>
- List-id: Policy-Discussion <cacert-policy.lists.cacert.org>
The Mozilla CA
Certificate Policy uses wording like 'We consider verification of
certificate signing requests to be acceptable if it' This is acceptable (if you
are still ‘with’ the legal formalisms). A CSR is (self)signed. (a)
you are thus properly ”verifying”, since it’s a signature. Second,
in a semantic leap based on policy, a CSR is technically a prototype cert (in a
non X.509 format) in some CPSs. Thus, “sponsored” by an LRA
(assurer in CACert), and “subscribed to” by the user, it gets
“validated” by a/the relying party known as a CA. During this act,
there are validation procedures – such as EV. As a final step the IA
component of a CA registers the cert, turning it from prototype/temp to accepted
cert, at which point obligations are passed to all types of relying party
other than the CA and subscriber. Ahem. Yes, its legal bullshit. But,
writing it is highly paid… and its author (not me) made over $50M. So… Remember, if like VeriSign ,
you are going to warrant now over 25 billion dollars, you need a strong
basis to convince the “insurers”. Since one cannot issue US-style
junk bonds to cover this kind of non-investment warranty, you have to go to
pure risk markets, like Lloyds. |
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] CPS bugs. Vote please. Colosing date of votes21 October 12pm UTC, (continued)
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] CPS bugs. Vote please. Colosing date of votes21 October 12pm UTC, Peter Williams, 10/21/2008
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] CPS bugs. Vote please. Colosing date of votes21 October 12pm UTC, Philipp Dunkel, 10/16/2008
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] CPS bugs. Vote please. Colosing date of votes21 October 12pm UTC, Tomáš Trnka, 10/17/2008
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] CPS bugs. Vote please. Colosing date of votes21 October 12pm UTC, Sam Johnston, 10/18/2008
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] CPS bugs. Vote please. Colosing date of votes21 October 12pm UTC, Philipp Dunkel, 10/18/2008
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] CPS bugs. Vote please. Colosing date of votes21 October 12pm UTC, Peter Williams, 10/18/2008
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] CPS bugs. Vote please. Colosing date of votes21 October 12pm UTC, IanG, 10/18/2008
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] CPS bugs. Vote please. Colosing date of votes21 October 12pm UTC, Peter Williams, 10/19/2008
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] CPS bugs. Vote please. Colosing date of votes21 October 12pm UTC, IanG, 10/19/2008
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] CPS bugs. Vote please. Colosing date of votes21 October 12pm UTC, Sam Johnston, 10/20/2008
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] CPS bugs. Vote please. Colosing date of votes21 October 12pm UTC, Peter Williams, 10/21/2008
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] CPS bugs. Vote please. Colosing date of votes21 October 12pm UTC, IanG, 10/21/2008
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] CPS bugs. Vote please. Colosing date of votes21 October 12pm UTC, Peter Williams, 10/21/2008
- [CAcert-Policy] EV stuff, IanG, 10/21/2008
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] EV stuff, Peter Williams, 10/21/2008
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] CPS bugs. Vote please. Colosing date of votes21 October 12pm UTC, Peter Williams, 10/21/2008
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] CPS bugs. Vote please. Colosing date of votes21 October 12pm UTC, Greg Stark, 10/21/2008
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] CPS bugs. Vote please. Colosing date of votes21 October 12pm UTC, Peter Williams, 10/21/2008
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] CPS bugs. Vote please. Colosing date of votes21 October 12pm UTC, IanG, 10/21/2008
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] CPS bugs. Vote please. Colosing date of votes21 October 12pm UTC, Bernhard Fröhlich, 10/21/2008
- Re: [CAcert-Policy] CPS bugs. Vote please. Colosing date of votes21 October 12pm UTC, Greg Stark, 10/21/2008
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