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Re: [CAcert-Policy] Org assurance, assurance by Org or Induvidual


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  • From: Sam Johnston <samj AT samj.net>
  • To: Policy-Discussion <cacert-policy AT lists.cacert.org>
  • Subject: Re: [CAcert-Policy] Org assurance, assurance by Org or Induvidual
  • Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 19:10:37 +0100
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Actually this doesn't very well represent my suggestion in that I never suggested that *any* employee should be able to do assurances, rather only the OrgAdmins who already have 100 points and who have done the CATS.

They are already assuring employees of the organisation en-masse in the name of the organisation (since that's the way it works when you're an employee - virtually everything you do is on behalf of your employer) so the suggestion was to allow the organisation to similarly bless members of the general public with assurance points.

Sam

On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Bernhard Froehlich <ted AT convey.de> wrote:
Teus Hagen schrieb:

Question: can an assured organisation (so any employee of that
organisation with the task: do assurances)  do CAcert assurances?

In general when the word "assurer" or "assurances" are used, generally
this is meant in the context of "*individual* assurances".
For this there is the individual assurance policy (Assurance Policy and
Assurance Manual and Assurance Challenge) in place. Even the CAcert
Community Agreement is originally discussed with "individual
members/assurance" in mind.

One can write in some policy paragraphs to enable assured organisation
to do CAcert assurances (individual and organisation), ie an Assurer can
be an organisation.
There are quite some good arguments for doing so. Sam mentioned several.
However the control of assurances done by organisations is imo more
complex as well CAcert needs to define quite some "policies" or
practical rules for this. Ie quite some work.

My suggestion is to stay for this moment to the current situation: an
Assurer is an *individual* Community Member who has at least 100
Assurance Points and has passed the Assurer Challenge.
 
Agreed by me. At least gives us some time to let the implications of "assurance by organisation" sink in a bit...

Ted
;)

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