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Re: Multiple Assurances


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  • From: Ian G <iang AT cacert.org>
  • To: cacert-policy AT lists.cacert.org
  • Subject: Re: Multiple Assurances
  • Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 15:14:48 +0100
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On 25/10/2009 09:28, Werner Dworak wrote:
Hello Ian,

I think, if an assurer could change his assurance too easily would be
too misuse prone. If not an arbitrator so at least a support engineer
should double check it.

I would say that the assurance isn't ever modified.  It's simply
replaced.  An arbitrator could request the entire history of assurances
and see the different varieties.

I think we should have both.

Sure.


If I just did a mistake (typing error or missing some entry) filling the
online form and I submitted it too fast, I should be able to correct it
in a time frame of about one hour without the intervention of support.


I think that is more reasonable now that we are moving to the CARS framework where an Assurer's statement is reliable. We rely on the whole aspects of the Assurer's work, and we don't need to pernickety about capturing the exact statement just once.

(Also, a lot has changed in the community since that original design. It is no surprise that its shelf life is looking bad.)


But if I become more experienced or get some hint and decide that one
assurance was not right and I should chance it, there should always be a
double check by support. And there you are right, the old assurance
should be maintained with the remark of invalid, so an arbitrator easily
can recheck it. If the above time frame is exceeded, there are chances
it was no simple mistake but some reason. So support shall check as well.


Right. I often forget that my mind-set is unfamiliar to others. When I say "replace" I mean, the actual record of the act is not replaced, because the act should be recorded forever. In contrast, the system should take the last known record as the one of current effect. A bit like wills&last testaments; the last good one is the one.


Another good idea would to be able to revisit an assurance. At present,
if I enter the email address of someone I assured already, I am blocked
immediately, so I cannot check what I did. I should be able to view an
old assurance and be only blocked if I try to change something.


I agree with the last point, yes, I find that very annoying. But I put it down to the software issues we have, and I'm not going to worry about it. If you think about it, fiddling to fix that will result in a complete redesign of that section ... and then we're into the resources question.

iang



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