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Re: Assurance Policy: match with ID required?


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  • From: Bernhard Fröhlich <bernhard AT cacert.org>
  • To: cacert-policy AT lists.cacert.org
  • Subject: Re: Assurance Policy: match with ID required?
  • Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 19:27:06 +0100
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Alexander Prinsier schrieb:
The Assurance Policy [1] currently is very unclear about whether or not
it is allowed to assure a name which is not in any government issued
photo-ID, but which is a very common country variation.

Citing sections 2.1 and 2.2 of the AP:

2.1:
The Name should be recorded as written in a government-issued photo
identity document (ID).

2.2:
In order to handle the contradictions in the above general standard, a
Member may record multiple Names or multiple variations of a Name in her
CAcert online Account. Examples of variations include married names,
variations of initials of first or middle names, abbreviations of a
first name, *different language or country variations*, and
transliterations of characters in a name.

I'd like to effectively remove the "different language or country
variations", because it's much too open, but still allow a backdoor to
handle the technical issues. I would like to see that all names have to
be on government issued ID, which is currently not the case.

Therefore I'd like to call for a *vote and supporting discussion*:

RESOLVED, that section 2.2 of the AP is to be amended with the following:

"Except for different names due to marital status, and except for
exclusion of middle names, the deviation from section 2.1 should be for
technical reasons only."

Vote Aye if you want the AP to be clear about what is allowed and what
is not, and specifically require a match with government issued ID.

Vote Naye if you prefer to leave this an open question and allow names
which are not in government issued ID.

My vote is Aye.

I vote Naye for now.

The discussion should go first and then the voting should be done!

Having said this I'm not solidly against your idea, but for now I'm not sure if it makes sense define more details in the AP.
It's clearly stated in PracticeOnNames that your proposed rules should be the standard. And I'd prefer to leave it to Arbitration to allow some specific "name mapping", like Johannes -> Hans in germany. For me it is very hard to see if explicitly forbidding this for ever and everyone won't get us in troubles somehow.

If you absolutely want to add something to the AP, why not something like "Exceptions to 2.1 need to be approved by an Arbitration."? OK, I must admit this somehow sounds stupid... But maybe someone else has a better idea?

Ted
;)

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