Policy-Discussion

[<ulrich AT cacert.org>]

Hi Alexander,

Last night, I've sent you a rationale for
a dispute filing, that covers all aspects
how to handle names.

It leaves no room, nor for the "country"
variations.

What means "country" variations ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_name
lists under "Personal names in world cultures"
lot of different "cultural" differences
and also the section "Name order"
gives some room how names are handled
different.

A special "dutch" variant is the
"Tussenvoegsels" rule:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tussenvoegsel
that i've handled in arb case
https://wiki.cacert.org/Arbitrations/a20090618.9

This is a real "country variation"
But country variations doesn't cover i.e.
nicknames ('cause all using nicknames) instead
of their christian names)


In my administration job at work I've
also    stumbled over chinese / asien names
with   A-B C-D  combinations ...
What is the givenname and what is the lastname ?!?
Can one name seperated ?
from chinese name ruling, yes
german rule says, 2 names combined by a hyphen
is one name ...
so here we have to deal with country
variations, and therefor I cannot
accept the policy change, otherwise
there is no more room for all these
special "country variations"
we didn't know yet

regards, uli   ;-)




-----Original Message-----
From: Alexander Prinsier 
[mailto:aphexer AT cacert.org]
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 1:37 PM
To: Policy-Discussion
Subject: Assurance Policy: match with ID required?


The Assurance Policy [1] currently is very unclear about whether or not it
is allowed to assure a name which is not in any government issued
photo-ID, but which is a very common country variation.

Citing sections 2.1 and 2.2 of the AP:

2.1:
The Name should be recorded as written in a government-issued photo
identity document (ID).

2.2:
In order to handle the contradictions in the above general standard, a
Member may record multiple Names or multiple variations of a Name in her
CAcert online Account. Examples of variations include married names,
variations of initials of first or middle names, abbreviations of a first
name, *different language or country variations*, and transliterations of
characters in a name.

I'd like to effectively remove the "different language or country
variations", because it's much too open, but still allow a backdoor to
handle the technical issues. I would like to see that all names have to be
on government issued ID, which is currently not the case.

Therefore I'd like to call for a *vote and supporting discussion*:

RESOLVED, that section 2.2 of the AP is to be amended with the following:

"Except for different names due to marital status, and except for
exclusion of middle names, the deviation from section 2.1 should be for
technical reasons only."

Vote Aye if you want the AP to be clear about what is allowed and what is
not, and specifically require a match with government issued ID.

Vote Naye if you prefer to leave this an open question and allow names
which are not in government issued ID.

My vote is Aye.

[1] http://www.cacert.org/policy/AssurancePolicy.php

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