CAcert System Admins discussion list

[Teus Hagen <teus AT theunis.org>]

In general you are right. The private channel can easily be covered by
just doing a person-2-person email communication.

As with the arbitration email list there is privacy sensitive info which
should be excluded from free publication. Example: strategy with Comodo
(we had that discussion some month ago). And there are more examples.
For this there should be a board-private email list. Similar with
support-private. In all cases there should be a clear reasoning to use
the XYZ-private email list.

The (Ian) proposal) would be: put this change in the communication
policy (this is an internal CAcert Inc. policy not a general policy).
And add the XYZ-private email lists into the system. Where XYZ is:
board
arbitration
support
system-admin
more?

Board can require opening up XYZ-private by a board decision. A yearly
report of statistics should be done to watch from the outside what is
happening (unused email list, traffic (if there is more traffic on the
private channel then on the public channel there might be something wrong).

So the proposal is: create XYZ-private for private (sensitive)
communication (change in the communication policy).

Please vote (board)...

teus

On 15/12/08 12:48, Philipp Dunkel wrote:
> As far as I know the Board-List-Archive is public as should be.
> We basically just need to publicize the link.
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> On 2008-12-11, at 08:43, Ian G (Audit) wrote:
>
>> Over on the foundations list there is a discussion on how to do business
>> stuff in open and in private.  I see some good ideas and good questions.
>>
>> https://openid.pbwiki.com/board-private
>>
>> 1.  It suggests that there are two lists for each sensitive purpose, one
>> for public, and one for private.  We see this with perhaps two areas:
>> Board and Sysadm.  The sense is like this:
>>
>>     board
>>     board-private
>>     sysadm
>>     sysadm-private
>>
>>
>> 2.  In addition, from last para of that page:
>>
>> "there is a standing policy that everything sent to the private list
>> must begin with a justification for it being private. Other [members]
>> can and often do reject these justifications and the discussions move to
>> the public list."
>>
>> 3.  For private lists, should there be a time limit on the release of
>> such private conversations, or should they be kept private forever?
>>
>> 4.  For both private and public lists, what is the archiving period, in
>> years?
>>
>> 5.  Is IRC covered?  Archived?
>>
>>
>>
>> iang (non-audit)
>>
>>
>> Notes:
>>
>> a.  This I think is non-audit discussion.  Just seems like good ideas
>> and good questions.
>>
>> b.  A place for this may be:
>> https://svn.cacert.org/CAcert/Policies/CAcertCommunicationPolicy.html
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