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["Christopher Hoth [CAcert.org]" <christopher AT cacert.org>]

Hi Markus,

getting PI space is atm not easy. You didn´t get a /24 directly without
 reason for any IP within 3 months. But this is needed for a own AS.

I dind´t see a reason at the moment, why cacert.org should getting a
"own" AS or PI space. For getting IPs for a system (or rack) it isn´t
needed that IPs are from a provider independent (PI) space.


When I take a look on the IDL offer, I mean, that 8 IP addresses will be
ok - or will anyone use more than 6 VMs on that little machine?
When IDL sponsors a bigger system (like ibm z10, sun cmt or a blade
center etc), we could request 128 IPs or..... ;)


If you have further questions, send me a mail (german?!) ;)

Regards,
Christopher

-------- Original Message  --------
Subject: Re: PI space, AS numbers?
From: Markus Warg 
<cacert AT quarkus.de>
To: 
cacert-sysadm AT lists.cacert.org
Date: Mon Aug 31 2009 09:49:00 GMT+0200 (CEST)

> Hi Ian,
> 
> get PI address space: you get an (usually) /24 net assigned to you, and
> you're responsible to have it announced (connected). You need to get
> that PI space first, then find an provider who is willing to announce
> your PI space (usually where your hardware is).
> 
> get an AS: there are some requirements that need to be fulfilled when
> having your own AS, one is that you need to have at least two
> independent uplinks to the net. 2nd is that your AS is an black box from
> outside, means traffic enters and leaves your AS through your border
> gates (uplinks).
> 
>>From my point of view, both of the topics would add much complexity to
> the whole system. You should really think if thats necessary (i.e.
> having servers at different locations within one AS is possible, but its
> not that easy (remember that black box thingy above)).
> 
> Maybe a more network enabled person than me should explain more if
> appreciated and I hope that I did not produce too much half knowledge ;)
> 
> Again, I would not do it until absolutely necessary.
> 
> regards,
> 
> Markus
> 
> Ian G schrieb:
>> It was suggested to me that:
>>
>> ==========
>> Get Provider Independent address space, PI space, that will give you at
>> least a /24 of v4 address space, and allow you to move the IPs between
>> hosting providers.
>>
>> Get an AS - Autonomous System Number, this allows you to announce BGP
>> routes to your network.  Do Anycast.
>> ==========
>>
>> Anyone got any views on this?
>>
>> iang