CAcert System Admins discussion list

[Mario Lipinski <mario AT cacert.org>]

Dear Guillaume, Dear Sysadmin List,

Guillaume, first of all I appreciate you caring about people dealing
appropriately with each other.

To all others, those of you who are worried and those who grabbed the
popcorn and are waiting for the fight to get to the next round, I have
to inform you that the fight is over. No one was knocked out.

Dominik and I took the discussion off list and turned the steamed up
arguments into a fruitful discussion and were also able to work
constructively regarding our collaboration on CAcert infrastructure.

Regarding DKIM: For now we switched back to test mode with skipping DKIM
signing until we are able to solve the issues.

Best,
Mario


Am 28.03.2012 00:18, schrieb Guillaume ROMAGNY:
> (restricting my message to sysadmin list)
> 
> Hello Dominik, Hello Mario, Dear Sysadmin team,
> 
> As one of the elder member of the association, I am not happy with what
> I have been reading.
> 
> Each one has good arguments.
> 
> But please, let's avoid a fight, we are benevolent, the association has
> known useless fights in the past, we all lost time.
> 
> Please, let's try to shape up the situation and avoid a blockade.
> 
> Let's plan a come back to a normal situation.
> 
> Also, can't we use a web tool to put the non-critical sysadmin spare
> time options. Or just use this list more appropriately.
> 
> Have a nice day,
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Guillaume
> 
> 
> On 26/03/2012 21:56, Mario Lipinski wrote:
>> Hi Dominik,
>>
>> I am really disappointed about your message. I do not expect you to be
>> delighted by the circumstances and I am sorry for not having been able
>> to communicate this in a timely manner. As we all, I am doing these
>> things in my spare time. With my current schedule I just cannot plan on
>> such big tasks days before. This weekend, I had some spare time and
>> decided to move on with this project and I am quite happy with the
>> results. The downtimes were kept to a minimum and everything - except
>> the DKIM stuff - seems to work.
>>
>> I was not aware about any other plans for moving email. And as this
>> project impacted all infrastructure services, coordinating this with any
>> team member, would have just been far too much overhead.
>>
>> During the migration I had to do some changes on every system as the IP
>> addresses changed. Along with this, some listening addresses for the
>> services and hosts for the interconnection of some systems had to be
>> adapted. I did not plan to do any other changes to the systems.
>>
>> I expect you to be more constructive regarding these issues and to look
>> more for solutions than complaining and blaming at anyone who might be
>> responsible. Team members, who just start complaining and blocking when
>> it comes to resolving problems that they may not be responsible for, are
>> of no use to me.
>>
>> Email, as well as many other infrastructure services, are in very bad
>> shape. They work, but the systems are outdated and the configuration
>> partly very complicated. I plan to care more of systems being updated
>> and actively maintained in the future.
>>
>> Given your email, I feel forced to care about this issue myself. Which
>> most likely means to discontinue DKIM for the time given.
>>
>> Mario
>>
>> Am 26.03.2012 03:56, schrieb Dominik George:
>>> Hi Mario,
>>>
>>>> I just moved email to another server. As far as I can see, everything
>>>> works. However, the DKIM daemon seems to keep crashing. Can you please
>>>> have a look.
>>> You announced this move no more than 24 hours ago. You did not give
>>> anyone time to things checked and prepared. Noone could prepare for
>>> restoring crashing services (as we are doing this in our freetime just
>>> as you are).
>>>
>>> Jan told me personally when we met in Chemnitz a week ago that "we
>>> should move the systems within a few weeks" and I agredd to get together
>>> with Jochim to do it. Jan didn't know about the immediate move either.
>>>
>>> Mario, this is bad. I really expect you to restore the servie to the
>>> fully-working state it was in before until your *team* that you are not
>>> really communicating with is ready to do the work.
>>>
> 
> 



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Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best regards

Mario Lipinski
Infrastructure Team Leader,         E-Mail: 
mario AT cacert.org
Organisation Assurer (Germany),     Internet: http://www.cacert.org
Arbitrator / Case Manager
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